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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  Not Former;

  It is more about governing body praise. Over the last 10 - 15 years.

  Especially the last 10 with broadcasting.
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  135

  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

  .

  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  The Borg drops the 144,000 belief they can kick the can down the road as far as they can.

  Prime example of,,,,,, moving the goalposts!!!!

  
  
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

  .

  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  Over on the Reddit forum,,,,,,, it looks as if its covered in the December 2024 watchtower.

  About the literal number 144,000 " conspicuously" left out.

  How convenient.....

  Drop that literal number and they can push their narrative as far as they can. Overlapping generations,, then dropping the 144,000 number altogether. They can kick this can down the road indefinitely!!!!!!

  Paradise earth,,Armageddon,, just a harmful ploy and mind trick to keep the $heeples working & indoctrinated!!!!

  
  
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

  .

  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  LHG wrote you were raised in a Catholic household upbringing..

  Good for you.

  That way you can easily purge yourself from this 2 class unscriptural belief and harmful paradise earth doctrine.

  I dont think anybody,,,,,really can vouch about an afterlife.

  Good for you!!!!!
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

  .

  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  Not Former said;

  You were postulating about jws realizing the bible teaching serves only the governing bodies' hope of salvation..

  I believe you are on to something!!!!

  More and more,,,,its all about the governing body. ""Our future kings,, the governing body"". Its all about them.

  And they can say F.U. to the rest of the rank and file and whoever else.🤐
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

  .

  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  The 2 class 2 tier system is such a fundamental core teaching in JWdom.

  Abandoning it almost totally eradicates the principal of life on earth in paradise.

  Having to earn that prospect is a cornerstone doctrine of this prospect of surviving Armageddon then the 1000 year period,,, the ""final test"",,,,, then paradise.

  What the hard core hardliners have resolved to for decades is suddenly erased in one new understanding. Its almost like the 2 class system which the Borg has held onto for over 89 years is nullified.

  This 2 class system has been the backbone of JW theology since the 1930s Rutherford era. Its what makes the JW theology ""unique"",, separate or different.
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  135

  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Beth Sarim

  Its out there!!!!

  Hard to believe. That's one core belief the Borg pounds into its victims(believers) heads to firm-up & solidify the ""us vs them" mentality..

  On the other hand however,,, the Borg is notorious for flip flopping on core doctrines. Like the faithful slave,, organ transplants,, superior authorities,,,,maybe the first flip flop on the 144,000? Perhaps.....

  You just never know!!!!!
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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

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  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  Beth Sarim

  Ahh the lockdown.

  The internet.....just a mouse click away.

  A plethora of videos,,websites like these,,,, forums,,,Jwfacts.
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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  Beth Sarim

  I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment on this thread!!!!

  The GB is realizing they can only say ""run faster & jump higher"",,,,,, for so long.

  People wear out.
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  WTS 2024 Annual Business Meeting ...

  by careful in

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  ... is just three weeks from this saturday.

  the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.

  now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.

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  Beth Sarim

  ""more direct to benefit Watchtower.".

  Its always been that way.

  ""saying they just don't know"

  Yes. They're actually saying that. Theyve admitted it.

  ""The governing body is neither inspired or infallible""